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Quote from emkarab >>

I don't understand "enjoyment of the game" part.

Why do you play HS?

As a control (not OTK) player I'm not really interested in playing at the moment. It feels nearly impossible to survive while playing defensively. Blizzard keeps nerfing AoE and late game comeback mechanics patch after patch while barely touching aggressive and burst decks.

For a long time Warrior has been the only viable control deck, which I found really monotonous but at least it was something. Now it too has been nerfed to the ground, leaving nothing left.

Idk why everyone complains so much all the time lmao

I really like the hydration station nerf it’s made warrior less oppressive with zill

But that Is exactly point he was talking about, that control almost does not exist.

On the other hand, i think IT was always like that, some control classes are simply not viable.

What i myself dislike about control decks Is when their game plan Is to flood board with minions, instead of controlling game with spells as one would expect from proper control decks. Control through sheer powerlevel Is usualy toxic experience. (Now when i think about IT, maybe there could be another name for this type of decks, same as there Is little but still visible difference between tempo and midrange deck.)

Honestly, I think this patch is pretty good. There's a good number of viable decks that have a spectrum of aesthetics and playstyles. Without the infinite unkilliax suffering I don't have a lot to complain about. I think excavate rogue falling by the wayside has been for the better. Games are tense, but matchups don't feel unwinnable. Not a lot of 'created by.' Games are capable of going long, but you never queue into a matchup going "oh boy better set aside the next 30 minutes."

I think a lot of people haven't tuned their brains to the current version of hearthstone. You're playing many cards in a turn and your opponent is too. Decks can do tons of damage, insert Leeroy copy pasta, but also gain tons of life to counteract that. If decks didn't have good burst combos with the amount of healing we have, then many decks would be out of the game after a few board clears. It's not like decks like highlander Druid aren't playable despite being slower. You beat these combos using taunts and disruption. This is just what normal is now. You both do a whole lot of stuff and it's able to cancel out into a close game.

Does control exist? Ehhhhhhh. Modern hearthstone isn't conducive to the sort of remove everything -> pass playstyle people are talking about. There are slower, more defensive decks, but they win by stabilizing and then playing minions. Or by playing Odyn and killing you. We can try to call that "the modern version of control," but that misses the point. Its getting into semantics to try and invalidate control player's feelings. What hardcore control players want is to play 29 lifesteal/removal cards + Alexandros Mograine and win. The thing is, I don't want to queue into that... that sounds awful... lol.

My opinion is that this meta doesn't need nerfs, the last round of nerfs was good, but I would like buffs to all the stuff they tried to print that didn't work. Burgle rogue, big spell mage, hunter.

For ladder I think its pretty fine abit to much OTK for my taste but still seems varied enough on ladder and my decks work against the netdeckers so thats good. But I do face quite abit of different decks.

All though the meta in the competitive scene tournaments seems very dull tbh.